3329-3429 W 41st Ave and 5649-5683 Blenheim St

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This application was approved by Council at Public Hearing on April 9, 2024.

We would like your feedback on a rezoning application at 3329-3429 W 41st Ave and 5649-5683 Blenheim St. The proposal is to allow for the development of a 6-storey institutional building containing a community care facility use. The zoning would change from R1-1 (Residential Inclusive) District to CD-1 (Comprehensive Development) District. This proposal includes:

  • 232 care units;
  • A floor space ratio (FSR) of 2.70;
  • A floor area of 20,902 sq. m (224,982 sq. ft.);
  • A building height of 28.7 m (94 ft.); and
  • 80 vehicle parking spaces and 9 bicycle parking spaces.

This site is located in the Interim Rezoning Policy for Social Housing, Seniors Housing and Institutional, Cultural and Recreational Uses in Former Community Vision Areas. The application requests consideration of height in excess of the existing policy.

Application drawings and statistics on this webpage are posted as-submitted to the City. Following staff review, the final project statistics are documented within the referral report.



We would like your feedback on a rezoning application at 3329-3429 W 41st Ave and 5649-5683 Blenheim St. The proposal is to allow for the development of a 6-storey institutional building containing a community care facility use. The zoning would change from R1-1 (Residential Inclusive) District to CD-1 (Comprehensive Development) District. This proposal includes:

  • 232 care units;
  • A floor space ratio (FSR) of 2.70;
  • A floor area of 20,902 sq. m (224,982 sq. ft.);
  • A building height of 28.7 m (94 ft.); and
  • 80 vehicle parking spaces and 9 bicycle parking spaces.

This site is located in the Interim Rezoning Policy for Social Housing, Seniors Housing and Institutional, Cultural and Recreational Uses in Former Community Vision Areas. The application requests consideration of height in excess of the existing policy.

Application drawings and statistics on this webpage are posted as-submitted to the City. Following staff review, the final project statistics are documented within the referral report.



This application was approved by Council at Public Hearing on April 9, 2024.

The opportunity to ask questions through the Q&A is available from April 19 to May 12, 2023. 

We post all questions as-is and aim to respond within two business days. Some questions may require coordination with internal departments and additional time may be needed to post a response.

Please note that the comment form will remain open after the virtual open house time period. The Rezoning Planner can also be contacted directly for any further feedback or questions.

  • Share 1. How much traffic is expected in the lane with the new rental building and now a seniors care building? Is that within acceptable limits? Is there a way to improve traffic flow and noise level? 2. The new lane intersecting Blenheim is a hazard for many students walking to Crofton and Kerrisdale Annex. Students need to cross that lane with the major increase in traffic from the lane. Is that within acceptable limits? What improvements can be put in? 3. At that same intersection where Blenheim intersects the new lane during peak hours, cars from lane will have difficulty getting out because of the long queue that already exists during peak hours. This will create a "choke point" at that location, and may delay emergency vehicles like ambulances. 4. The traffic analysis by Bunt did not consider the increase traffic flow from the future rental building at W.41/Collingwood, the future 5-stories rental building on W.41st and Blenheim (NE corner), and future rental building directly across W.41 from the proposed Amica Development. This seems like a MAJOR miss in their traffic analysis, focusing only on existing traffic patterns and old City of Vancouver data, but ignoring significant developments coming into the area. Can Bunt please comment on this? 5. The neighbors on W.40th are very concerned about increased cars, is it possible for W.40th to only allow parking with PERMITS? 6. Bunt recommended restriction on parking for the first 35 meter of Blenheim heading south and northbound. Are they aware the parking limitation is already there? There is no parking for the first 35m. A major issue is part of the curb after 35m sticks out into the street, reducing the street to only have 1 lane of traffic for about 100 meters. This change is what is causing major backlog and long queues at W.41st and Blenheim noted in the report. To allow for increased traffic flow, having 2 full lanes will reduce the heavy congestions at W.41 and Blenheim southbound during peak hours, as noted in the report. Can Bunt comment on this? on Facebook Share 1. How much traffic is expected in the lane with the new rental building and now a seniors care building? Is that within acceptable limits? Is there a way to improve traffic flow and noise level? 2. The new lane intersecting Blenheim is a hazard for many students walking to Crofton and Kerrisdale Annex. Students need to cross that lane with the major increase in traffic from the lane. Is that within acceptable limits? What improvements can be put in? 3. At that same intersection where Blenheim intersects the new lane during peak hours, cars from lane will have difficulty getting out because of the long queue that already exists during peak hours. This will create a "choke point" at that location, and may delay emergency vehicles like ambulances. 4. The traffic analysis by Bunt did not consider the increase traffic flow from the future rental building at W.41/Collingwood, the future 5-stories rental building on W.41st and Blenheim (NE corner), and future rental building directly across W.41 from the proposed Amica Development. This seems like a MAJOR miss in their traffic analysis, focusing only on existing traffic patterns and old City of Vancouver data, but ignoring significant developments coming into the area. Can Bunt please comment on this? 5. The neighbors on W.40th are very concerned about increased cars, is it possible for W.40th to only allow parking with PERMITS? 6. Bunt recommended restriction on parking for the first 35 meter of Blenheim heading south and northbound. Are they aware the parking limitation is already there? There is no parking for the first 35m. A major issue is part of the curb after 35m sticks out into the street, reducing the street to only have 1 lane of traffic for about 100 meters. This change is what is causing major backlog and long queues at W.41st and Blenheim noted in the report. To allow for increased traffic flow, having 2 full lanes will reduce the heavy congestions at W.41 and Blenheim southbound during peak hours, as noted in the report. Can Bunt comment on this? on Twitter Share 1. How much traffic is expected in the lane with the new rental building and now a seniors care building? Is that within acceptable limits? Is there a way to improve traffic flow and noise level? 2. The new lane intersecting Blenheim is a hazard for many students walking to Crofton and Kerrisdale Annex. Students need to cross that lane with the major increase in traffic from the lane. Is that within acceptable limits? What improvements can be put in? 3. At that same intersection where Blenheim intersects the new lane during peak hours, cars from lane will have difficulty getting out because of the long queue that already exists during peak hours. This will create a "choke point" at that location, and may delay emergency vehicles like ambulances. 4. The traffic analysis by Bunt did not consider the increase traffic flow from the future rental building at W.41/Collingwood, the future 5-stories rental building on W.41st and Blenheim (NE corner), and future rental building directly across W.41 from the proposed Amica Development. This seems like a MAJOR miss in their traffic analysis, focusing only on existing traffic patterns and old City of Vancouver data, but ignoring significant developments coming into the area. Can Bunt please comment on this? 5. The neighbors on W.40th are very concerned about increased cars, is it possible for W.40th to only allow parking with PERMITS? 6. Bunt recommended restriction on parking for the first 35 meter of Blenheim heading south and northbound. Are they aware the parking limitation is already there? There is no parking for the first 35m. A major issue is part of the curb after 35m sticks out into the street, reducing the street to only have 1 lane of traffic for about 100 meters. This change is what is causing major backlog and long queues at W.41st and Blenheim noted in the report. To allow for increased traffic flow, having 2 full lanes will reduce the heavy congestions at W.41 and Blenheim southbound during peak hours, as noted in the report. Can Bunt comment on this? on Linkedin Email 1. How much traffic is expected in the lane with the new rental building and now a seniors care building? Is that within acceptable limits? Is there a way to improve traffic flow and noise level? 2. The new lane intersecting Blenheim is a hazard for many students walking to Crofton and Kerrisdale Annex. Students need to cross that lane with the major increase in traffic from the lane. Is that within acceptable limits? What improvements can be put in? 3. At that same intersection where Blenheim intersects the new lane during peak hours, cars from lane will have difficulty getting out because of the long queue that already exists during peak hours. This will create a "choke point" at that location, and may delay emergency vehicles like ambulances. 4. The traffic analysis by Bunt did not consider the increase traffic flow from the future rental building at W.41/Collingwood, the future 5-stories rental building on W.41st and Blenheim (NE corner), and future rental building directly across W.41 from the proposed Amica Development. This seems like a MAJOR miss in their traffic analysis, focusing only on existing traffic patterns and old City of Vancouver data, but ignoring significant developments coming into the area. Can Bunt please comment on this? 5. The neighbors on W.40th are very concerned about increased cars, is it possible for W.40th to only allow parking with PERMITS? 6. Bunt recommended restriction on parking for the first 35 meter of Blenheim heading south and northbound. Are they aware the parking limitation is already there? There is no parking for the first 35m. A major issue is part of the curb after 35m sticks out into the street, reducing the street to only have 1 lane of traffic for about 100 meters. This change is what is causing major backlog and long queues at W.41st and Blenheim noted in the report. To allow for increased traffic flow, having 2 full lanes will reduce the heavy congestions at W.41 and Blenheim southbound during peak hours, as noted in the report. Can Bunt comment on this? link

    1. How much traffic is expected in the lane with the new rental building and now a seniors care building? Is that within acceptable limits? Is there a way to improve traffic flow and noise level? 2. The new lane intersecting Blenheim is a hazard for many students walking to Crofton and Kerrisdale Annex. Students need to cross that lane with the major increase in traffic from the lane. Is that within acceptable limits? What improvements can be put in? 3. At that same intersection where Blenheim intersects the new lane during peak hours, cars from lane will have difficulty getting out because of the long queue that already exists during peak hours. This will create a "choke point" at that location, and may delay emergency vehicles like ambulances. 4. The traffic analysis by Bunt did not consider the increase traffic flow from the future rental building at W.41/Collingwood, the future 5-stories rental building on W.41st and Blenheim (NE corner), and future rental building directly across W.41 from the proposed Amica Development. This seems like a MAJOR miss in their traffic analysis, focusing only on existing traffic patterns and old City of Vancouver data, but ignoring significant developments coming into the area. Can Bunt please comment on this? 5. The neighbors on W.40th are very concerned about increased cars, is it possible for W.40th to only allow parking with PERMITS? 6. Bunt recommended restriction on parking for the first 35 meter of Blenheim heading south and northbound. Are they aware the parking limitation is already there? There is no parking for the first 35m. A major issue is part of the curb after 35m sticks out into the street, reducing the street to only have 1 lane of traffic for about 100 meters. This change is what is causing major backlog and long queues at W.41st and Blenheim noted in the report. To allow for increased traffic flow, having 2 full lanes will reduce the heavy congestions at W.41 and Blenheim southbound during peak hours, as noted in the report. Can Bunt comment on this?

    about 1 year ago

    All responses below have been provided by the applicant team unless otherwise noted.

    1. 

    Q: How much traffic is expected in the lane with the new rental building and now a seniors care building?

    A. The new rental building adjacent to the proposed seniors care building is anticipated to generate about 50-60 vehicle trips during the peak hour periods. The senior home development is anticipated to generate another 45-55 vehicle trips in the peak hours.  So, in combination the two new developments would add about 100-115 vehicle trips during the peak hours.

    Q: Is that within acceptable limits?

    A. This level of traffic is entirely appropriate for public laneways.

    Q: Is there a way to improve traffic flow and noise level?

    A. Level of traffic in the lane is typical for a public laneway. In terms of noise, there will be a loading management plan. Residents, much like neighbours, are sensitive to noise. 

    2. 

    Q: The new lane intersecting Blenheim is a hazard for many students walking to Crofton and Kerrisdale Annex.  Students need to cross that lane with the major increase in traffic from the lane.  Is that within acceptable limits? What improvements can be put in? 

    A: As mentioned above, the anticipated two-way vehicle trips anticipated during the peak hours from both the rental and senior development is about 100-115 trips. These trips will be spread across the two laneway intersection and average out to 1-2 vehicles per minute at the Blenheim laneway intersection. Thus, vehicle conflict with pedestrians are anticipated to be very low.

    3.

    Q: At that same intersection where Blenheim intersects the new lane during peak hours, cars from lane will have difficulty getting out because of the long queue that already exists during peak hours. This will create a "choke point" at that location, and may delay emergency vehicles like ambulances.

    A: We acknowledge that traffic may be busy along Blenheim during peak hours, but emergency vehicles should be able to operate per status quo. It is expected that vehicles would follow the rules of the road and yield to emergency vehicles. 

    4. 

    Q: The traffic analysis by Bunt did not consider the increase traffic flow from the future rental building at W.41/Collingwood, the future 5-stories rental building on W.41st and Blenheim (NE corner), and future rental building directly across W.41 from the proposed Amica Development.  This seems like a MAJOR miss in their traffic analysis, focusing only on existing traffic patterns and old City of Vancouver data, but ignoring significant developments coming into the area.  Can Bunt please comment on this?

    A: Our study TOR has been shared, reviewed, and accepted by the City Engineering department. The City did not specify to include the neighbouring rental development, but Bunt did include a blanket background traffic growth of 1% per year, which is to capture future traffic growth in the general area.

     5. Response provided by City Staff.

    Q: The neighbors on W.40th are very concerned about increased cars, is it possible for W.40th to only allow parking with PERMITS?

    A: Residential permit parking zones are typically created on local neighbourhood streets where there is high demand for parking.  Block residents may request a new permit zone or change to an existing permit zone online.  For more information, or to make a request, please visit https://vancouver.ca/streets-transportation/permit-zone-request.aspx or call 3-1-1.

    6.

    Q: Bunt recommended restriction on parking for the first 35 meter of Blenheim heading south and northbound.  Are they aware the parking limitation is already there? There is no parking for the first 35m.  A major issue is part of the curb after 35m sticks out into the street, reducing the street to only have 1 lane of traffic for about 100 meters.  This change is what is causing major backlog and long queues at W.41st and Blenheim noted in the report.  To allow for increased traffic flow, having 2 full lanes will reduce the heavy congestions at W.41 and Blenheim southbound during peak hours, as noted in the report. Can Bunt comment on this?

    A: Bunt is aware that there are no parking/stopping restrictions already in place. In general, the recommendation still holds to ensure this restriction will continue to be in place. However, it is noted that the current road width does not seem wide enough to formalize two lanes.  We recommend the City secure additional right out way as and when the property at the northwest corner of the intersection redevelops. If the right of way is wide enough for two lanes, continuing to restrict parking/stopping on the southbound and northbound parking for the first 35m would likely help improve operations as the through and right turning vehicles would less likely be stuck waiting behind left turning vehicles.

  • Share 1. Based on the traffic studies done (by the developer), 41st Ave at peak hours is already at maximum. This study did not consider the already approved rental at the corner of Collingwood and 41st nor the other approvals happening, including Blenheim & 41st. What will the city do to mitigate the traffic added, especially with larger trucks, ambulances, etc 2. Why is this building so tall (94 feet) compared to other structures built in Dunbar, which seem to be about 50 feet? on Facebook Share 1. Based on the traffic studies done (by the developer), 41st Ave at peak hours is already at maximum. This study did not consider the already approved rental at the corner of Collingwood and 41st nor the other approvals happening, including Blenheim & 41st. What will the city do to mitigate the traffic added, especially with larger trucks, ambulances, etc 2. Why is this building so tall (94 feet) compared to other structures built in Dunbar, which seem to be about 50 feet? on Twitter Share 1. Based on the traffic studies done (by the developer), 41st Ave at peak hours is already at maximum. This study did not consider the already approved rental at the corner of Collingwood and 41st nor the other approvals happening, including Blenheim & 41st. What will the city do to mitigate the traffic added, especially with larger trucks, ambulances, etc 2. Why is this building so tall (94 feet) compared to other structures built in Dunbar, which seem to be about 50 feet? on Linkedin Email 1. Based on the traffic studies done (by the developer), 41st Ave at peak hours is already at maximum. This study did not consider the already approved rental at the corner of Collingwood and 41st nor the other approvals happening, including Blenheim & 41st. What will the city do to mitigate the traffic added, especially with larger trucks, ambulances, etc 2. Why is this building so tall (94 feet) compared to other structures built in Dunbar, which seem to be about 50 feet? link

    1. Based on the traffic studies done (by the developer), 41st Ave at peak hours is already at maximum. This study did not consider the already approved rental at the corner of Collingwood and 41st nor the other approvals happening, including Blenheim & 41st. What will the city do to mitigate the traffic added, especially with larger trucks, ambulances, etc 2. Why is this building so tall (94 feet) compared to other structures built in Dunbar, which seem to be about 50 feet?

    Concerned Neighbor asked over 1 year ago

    Thanks for the questions. 

    Q: Based on the traffic studies done (by the developer), 41st Ave at peak hours is already at maximum. This study did not consider the already approved rental at the corner of Collingwood and 41st nor the other approvals happening, including Blenheim & 41st. What will the city do to mitigate the traffic added, especially with larger trucks, ambulances, etc

    A: The following response has been provided by the City: A Transportation Assessment and Management Study (TAMS) was submitted as part of the rezoning application. The consultant’s traffic study include consideration for background traffic volume growth (which refers to both existing and new traffic from other nearby projects) and concludes that the study intersections currently operate, and will continue to operate, at satisfactory levels overall upon completion of the proposed development.

    The development is well-sited to encourage reduced vehicle trip and parking demand.  The site is in close proximity to the frequent transit along Dunbar St and W 41st Ave, as well as bikeways along Dunbar St and W 37th Ave & W 39th Ave.

    As part of the rezoning process, Engineering staff review the application with respect transportation impacts and, if identified, may include development conditions for off-site requirements to improve transportation operations and safety for pedestrians, cyclists, and motorists adjacent to the site.

    All large vehicles must access sites via the City’s truck routes, per the Street and Traffic Bylaw (reference the City’s Truck Route Map and Guide). The development is conveniently located on a designated truck route and all site generated loading activity is required to be accommodated on-site with access to/from W 41st Ave via the laneway. Ambulance services are not prescribed by the City.  Emergency vehicles choose the safest and most direct route available to a site.

    Q: Why is this building so tall (94 feet) compared to other structures built in Dunbar, which seem to be about 50 feet?

    A: The following response has been provided by the applicant: Secured rental buildings on corridors at 5-6 storeys or 55’- 65’ plus rooftop amenities of 10’ for a total of 65’ to 75’, are housing. As a Community Care Facility, larger amenity spaces and HVAC are required, adding to the height.

    This is a Community Care Facility designed for seniors. Amica is committed to enriching the lives of each individual resident, allowing them to age in place, even as their needs change. They create dignified living space to provide a high quality of life. To offer such enriched services and care (including palliative through to end of life support), we need sufficient space to operate. Generally, the floor to floor in Amica buildings is similar to residential buildings with building systems like HVAC in addition which adds to the building height. This means that Assisted Living, Long-term care, and Long-term care with memory care all have their own dedicated dining rooms and lounges, as well as their own activities and sets of supporting team members. This requires space. Plus, residents invite their families and friends over to be a part of activities – and this requires generous amenity space. Ceiling heights are higher to allow for healthy congregate space and airflow. Common amenities, where residents gather, are located throughout the building on levels 1-4 to foster socializing and promote good mental wellbeing.  In addition, ceiling height is needed to facilitate the delivery of complex care (e.g. height allowance for mechanical lifts, etc.).”   


  • Share How many of the existing trees will be retained and how many will be demolished ? on Facebook Share How many of the existing trees will be retained and how many will be demolished ? on Twitter Share How many of the existing trees will be retained and how many will be demolished ? on Linkedin Email How many of the existing trees will be retained and how many will be demolished ? link

    How many of the existing trees will be retained and how many will be demolished ?

    Rabab Ward asked about 1 year ago

    Thanks for the question. The following response has been provided by the applicant:

    For onsite trees, there are 50 existing trees of which none are proposed to be retained. However, at project completion 71 trees are proposed (44 at grade and 27 on the building).

  • Share The applicant makes the claim that the height of the building of 94 feet (from back) and 102.9 feet (from W.41) tall as shown on page 26 of the applicant board is excessive, but REQUIRED because of HVAC and air circulation equipment. Can we please see supporting literature for this? I have been designing senior homes around Vancouver for many years including memory care and have never heard of excessive height being needed because of HVAC equipment. I also phoned our mechanical engineer to confirm this. I do not believe this claim is accurate. It is possible to design a care home with assisted living and complex care today that is 6 storey under 75 feet tall in total height. Please share supporting literature from qualified engineer stating why 94 to 102 feet is needed for this particular building? Could the real reason be that Amica needs higher interior finished ceiling in order to charge a higher price to vulnerable seniors in Dunbar? Amica's pricing is very high, at their newly opened Lions Gate facility price for memory care is $15,000 + additional fees a month. It would be helpful if Amica can also disclose its financial projections so we can evaluate whether it is financially feasible at lower height? The City should have access to this info in any case for CAC contribution discussions with Amica? How does this proposed height from 102 feet to 94 feet conform with the Dunbar Community Vision? Is there a required setback from the back lane? From other senior home development proposal on Granville and Arbutus, the setback is 20 feet away from the lane. Why is this project only 8 feet away from the lane? The shadow study posted is missing the 4 pm shadow impact for fall and spring. Why is that? Can Amica please post the complete shadow diagram including 4 pm? The summer shadow is not disclosed either, is that because of the long and more devastating shadow impact in the summer months? Other proposed developments show shadow diagram for at least three seasons - is Amica strategically not posting it to avoid showing the negative shadow impacts from the excessive height? Amica is owned by the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan, which is not required to pay any income tax on its profits. How is the significant tax advantage of Amica translated into value for City of Vancouver and Dunbar Residents? on Facebook Share The applicant makes the claim that the height of the building of 94 feet (from back) and 102.9 feet (from W.41) tall as shown on page 26 of the applicant board is excessive, but REQUIRED because of HVAC and air circulation equipment. Can we please see supporting literature for this? I have been designing senior homes around Vancouver for many years including memory care and have never heard of excessive height being needed because of HVAC equipment. I also phoned our mechanical engineer to confirm this. I do not believe this claim is accurate. It is possible to design a care home with assisted living and complex care today that is 6 storey under 75 feet tall in total height. Please share supporting literature from qualified engineer stating why 94 to 102 feet is needed for this particular building? Could the real reason be that Amica needs higher interior finished ceiling in order to charge a higher price to vulnerable seniors in Dunbar? Amica's pricing is very high, at their newly opened Lions Gate facility price for memory care is $15,000 + additional fees a month. It would be helpful if Amica can also disclose its financial projections so we can evaluate whether it is financially feasible at lower height? The City should have access to this info in any case for CAC contribution discussions with Amica? How does this proposed height from 102 feet to 94 feet conform with the Dunbar Community Vision? Is there a required setback from the back lane? From other senior home development proposal on Granville and Arbutus, the setback is 20 feet away from the lane. Why is this project only 8 feet away from the lane? The shadow study posted is missing the 4 pm shadow impact for fall and spring. Why is that? Can Amica please post the complete shadow diagram including 4 pm? The summer shadow is not disclosed either, is that because of the long and more devastating shadow impact in the summer months? Other proposed developments show shadow diagram for at least three seasons - is Amica strategically not posting it to avoid showing the negative shadow impacts from the excessive height? Amica is owned by the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan, which is not required to pay any income tax on its profits. How is the significant tax advantage of Amica translated into value for City of Vancouver and Dunbar Residents? on Twitter Share The applicant makes the claim that the height of the building of 94 feet (from back) and 102.9 feet (from W.41) tall as shown on page 26 of the applicant board is excessive, but REQUIRED because of HVAC and air circulation equipment. Can we please see supporting literature for this? I have been designing senior homes around Vancouver for many years including memory care and have never heard of excessive height being needed because of HVAC equipment. I also phoned our mechanical engineer to confirm this. I do not believe this claim is accurate. It is possible to design a care home with assisted living and complex care today that is 6 storey under 75 feet tall in total height. Please share supporting literature from qualified engineer stating why 94 to 102 feet is needed for this particular building? Could the real reason be that Amica needs higher interior finished ceiling in order to charge a higher price to vulnerable seniors in Dunbar? Amica's pricing is very high, at their newly opened Lions Gate facility price for memory care is $15,000 + additional fees a month. It would be helpful if Amica can also disclose its financial projections so we can evaluate whether it is financially feasible at lower height? The City should have access to this info in any case for CAC contribution discussions with Amica? How does this proposed height from 102 feet to 94 feet conform with the Dunbar Community Vision? Is there a required setback from the back lane? From other senior home development proposal on Granville and Arbutus, the setback is 20 feet away from the lane. Why is this project only 8 feet away from the lane? The shadow study posted is missing the 4 pm shadow impact for fall and spring. Why is that? Can Amica please post the complete shadow diagram including 4 pm? The summer shadow is not disclosed either, is that because of the long and more devastating shadow impact in the summer months? Other proposed developments show shadow diagram for at least three seasons - is Amica strategically not posting it to avoid showing the negative shadow impacts from the excessive height? Amica is owned by the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan, which is not required to pay any income tax on its profits. How is the significant tax advantage of Amica translated into value for City of Vancouver and Dunbar Residents? on Linkedin Email The applicant makes the claim that the height of the building of 94 feet (from back) and 102.9 feet (from W.41) tall as shown on page 26 of the applicant board is excessive, but REQUIRED because of HVAC and air circulation equipment. Can we please see supporting literature for this? I have been designing senior homes around Vancouver for many years including memory care and have never heard of excessive height being needed because of HVAC equipment. I also phoned our mechanical engineer to confirm this. I do not believe this claim is accurate. It is possible to design a care home with assisted living and complex care today that is 6 storey under 75 feet tall in total height. Please share supporting literature from qualified engineer stating why 94 to 102 feet is needed for this particular building? Could the real reason be that Amica needs higher interior finished ceiling in order to charge a higher price to vulnerable seniors in Dunbar? Amica's pricing is very high, at their newly opened Lions Gate facility price for memory care is $15,000 + additional fees a month. It would be helpful if Amica can also disclose its financial projections so we can evaluate whether it is financially feasible at lower height? The City should have access to this info in any case for CAC contribution discussions with Amica? How does this proposed height from 102 feet to 94 feet conform with the Dunbar Community Vision? Is there a required setback from the back lane? From other senior home development proposal on Granville and Arbutus, the setback is 20 feet away from the lane. Why is this project only 8 feet away from the lane? The shadow study posted is missing the 4 pm shadow impact for fall and spring. Why is that? Can Amica please post the complete shadow diagram including 4 pm? The summer shadow is not disclosed either, is that because of the long and more devastating shadow impact in the summer months? Other proposed developments show shadow diagram for at least three seasons - is Amica strategically not posting it to avoid showing the negative shadow impacts from the excessive height? Amica is owned by the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan, which is not required to pay any income tax on its profits. How is the significant tax advantage of Amica translated into value for City of Vancouver and Dunbar Residents? link

    The applicant makes the claim that the height of the building of 94 feet (from back) and 102.9 feet (from W.41) tall as shown on page 26 of the applicant board is excessive, but REQUIRED because of HVAC and air circulation equipment. Can we please see supporting literature for this? I have been designing senior homes around Vancouver for many years including memory care and have never heard of excessive height being needed because of HVAC equipment. I also phoned our mechanical engineer to confirm this. I do not believe this claim is accurate. It is possible to design a care home with assisted living and complex care today that is 6 storey under 75 feet tall in total height. Please share supporting literature from qualified engineer stating why 94 to 102 feet is needed for this particular building? Could the real reason be that Amica needs higher interior finished ceiling in order to charge a higher price to vulnerable seniors in Dunbar? Amica's pricing is very high, at their newly opened Lions Gate facility price for memory care is $15,000 + additional fees a month. It would be helpful if Amica can also disclose its financial projections so we can evaluate whether it is financially feasible at lower height? The City should have access to this info in any case for CAC contribution discussions with Amica? How does this proposed height from 102 feet to 94 feet conform with the Dunbar Community Vision? Is there a required setback from the back lane? From other senior home development proposal on Granville and Arbutus, the setback is 20 feet away from the lane. Why is this project only 8 feet away from the lane? The shadow study posted is missing the 4 pm shadow impact for fall and spring. Why is that? Can Amica please post the complete shadow diagram including 4 pm? The summer shadow is not disclosed either, is that because of the long and more devastating shadow impact in the summer months? Other proposed developments show shadow diagram for at least three seasons - is Amica strategically not posting it to avoid showing the negative shadow impacts from the excessive height? Amica is owned by the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan, which is not required to pay any income tax on its profits. How is the significant tax advantage of Amica translated into value for City of Vancouver and Dunbar Residents?

    Amy Holloway asked over 1 year ago

    Thanks for the questions. The following response has been provided by the applicant:

    • The mechanical consultant for this project is citing CSA Z317.2:19 in specifying the required equipment and coordination space for a community care facility. Programming further guides ceiling heights with amenity spaces on levels 1-4 to engender a healthy quality of life. 
    • 94’ is the height to the top of the rooftop amenity from the City established building grade (line of base surface), where the rooftop amenity exists (9% of roof), and not in reference to the lane. This measurement does not account for the grading in specific areas. At the rear lane near Blenheim, for example, the proposed building height is 75’9”.
    • Setbacks, in addition to dedications (17’ at front and 20’ at back), are proposed at 12’ at the front and 8’ at the rear to be consistent with the adjacent rezoning. This would align the structure, providing a pedestrian street wall. This extends to level 4, then the minimum setback becomes 25’. Significant articulation throughout the rear of the building for patios, gardens and the porte cochere results in high relief setbacks of as much as 55’ or 75’ when counting the dedication. 
    • We cannot provide financial projections. 
    • Yes, we can provide a winter and summer shadow study. Studies are being prepared.  


    The applicant team is open to a discussion to clarify any other questions. You can contact Karly Morgan, Intracorp at kmorgan@intracorphomes.com

  • Share I have the following questions and concerns: 1) I am concerned about removing ALL mature trees in the area. It appears that all of the mature trees onsite and most of the ones in neighbors' backyards will be taken down because of this project. I would like to know if anything can be done to save some of them. Maintaining the living trees that play a vital role in this neighborhood should be a high priority. 2) I have noticed that the proposed development exceeds the height limit set in the Dunbar community plan. According to the plan, this area should be four-storey or about 50 feet tall, while the proposal is for 94 feet. I would like to know why this is the case and if any measures are being taken to address this concern. 3) I am concerned that the development will result in a loss of sunlight for residents in the area. All houses on 40th Avenue have a depth of 100 feet, which will not be suitable for future development. Most of these houses will stay as they are or be rebuilt as duplexes with a maximum of two storeys. Therefore, residents will rarely see sunshine due to this development. 4) Bleinheim / 41st Ave intersection is already busy in the mornings and afternoons. Croftonhouse school students/parents pass through this intersection in addition to regular traffic. I am concerned that this development, combined with the already approved developments, will make the intersection unsafe. on Facebook Share I have the following questions and concerns: 1) I am concerned about removing ALL mature trees in the area. It appears that all of the mature trees onsite and most of the ones in neighbors' backyards will be taken down because of this project. I would like to know if anything can be done to save some of them. Maintaining the living trees that play a vital role in this neighborhood should be a high priority. 2) I have noticed that the proposed development exceeds the height limit set in the Dunbar community plan. According to the plan, this area should be four-storey or about 50 feet tall, while the proposal is for 94 feet. I would like to know why this is the case and if any measures are being taken to address this concern. 3) I am concerned that the development will result in a loss of sunlight for residents in the area. All houses on 40th Avenue have a depth of 100 feet, which will not be suitable for future development. Most of these houses will stay as they are or be rebuilt as duplexes with a maximum of two storeys. Therefore, residents will rarely see sunshine due to this development. 4) Bleinheim / 41st Ave intersection is already busy in the mornings and afternoons. Croftonhouse school students/parents pass through this intersection in addition to regular traffic. I am concerned that this development, combined with the already approved developments, will make the intersection unsafe. on Twitter Share I have the following questions and concerns: 1) I am concerned about removing ALL mature trees in the area. It appears that all of the mature trees onsite and most of the ones in neighbors' backyards will be taken down because of this project. I would like to know if anything can be done to save some of them. Maintaining the living trees that play a vital role in this neighborhood should be a high priority. 2) I have noticed that the proposed development exceeds the height limit set in the Dunbar community plan. According to the plan, this area should be four-storey or about 50 feet tall, while the proposal is for 94 feet. I would like to know why this is the case and if any measures are being taken to address this concern. 3) I am concerned that the development will result in a loss of sunlight for residents in the area. All houses on 40th Avenue have a depth of 100 feet, which will not be suitable for future development. Most of these houses will stay as they are or be rebuilt as duplexes with a maximum of two storeys. Therefore, residents will rarely see sunshine due to this development. 4) Bleinheim / 41st Ave intersection is already busy in the mornings and afternoons. Croftonhouse school students/parents pass through this intersection in addition to regular traffic. I am concerned that this development, combined with the already approved developments, will make the intersection unsafe. on Linkedin Email I have the following questions and concerns: 1) I am concerned about removing ALL mature trees in the area. It appears that all of the mature trees onsite and most of the ones in neighbors' backyards will be taken down because of this project. I would like to know if anything can be done to save some of them. Maintaining the living trees that play a vital role in this neighborhood should be a high priority. 2) I have noticed that the proposed development exceeds the height limit set in the Dunbar community plan. According to the plan, this area should be four-storey or about 50 feet tall, while the proposal is for 94 feet. I would like to know why this is the case and if any measures are being taken to address this concern. 3) I am concerned that the development will result in a loss of sunlight for residents in the area. All houses on 40th Avenue have a depth of 100 feet, which will not be suitable for future development. Most of these houses will stay as they are or be rebuilt as duplexes with a maximum of two storeys. Therefore, residents will rarely see sunshine due to this development. 4) Bleinheim / 41st Ave intersection is already busy in the mornings and afternoons. Croftonhouse school students/parents pass through this intersection in addition to regular traffic. I am concerned that this development, combined with the already approved developments, will make the intersection unsafe. link

    I have the following questions and concerns: 1) I am concerned about removing ALL mature trees in the area. It appears that all of the mature trees onsite and most of the ones in neighbors' backyards will be taken down because of this project. I would like to know if anything can be done to save some of them. Maintaining the living trees that play a vital role in this neighborhood should be a high priority. 2) I have noticed that the proposed development exceeds the height limit set in the Dunbar community plan. According to the plan, this area should be four-storey or about 50 feet tall, while the proposal is for 94 feet. I would like to know why this is the case and if any measures are being taken to address this concern. 3) I am concerned that the development will result in a loss of sunlight for residents in the area. All houses on 40th Avenue have a depth of 100 feet, which will not be suitable for future development. Most of these houses will stay as they are or be rebuilt as duplexes with a maximum of two storeys. Therefore, residents will rarely see sunshine due to this development. 4) Bleinheim / 41st Ave intersection is already busy in the mornings and afternoons. Croftonhouse school students/parents pass through this intersection in addition to regular traffic. I am concerned that this development, combined with the already approved developments, will make the intersection unsafe.

    40th Ave Neighbour asked about 1 year ago

    Thanks for the question. 

    Q: I have noticed that the proposed development exceeds the height limit set in the Dunbar community plan. According to the plan, this area should be four-storey or about 50 feet tall, while the proposal is for 94 feet. I would like to know why this is the case and if any measures are being taken to address this concern.

    A: The following response has been provided by City Staff: You are correct. The Dunbar Community Vision allows for consideration of seniors housing for up to four-storeys. A measurement height limit is not provided in the policy. 

    The following response has been provided by the applicant: This is a Community Care Facility designed for seniors. Amica is committed to enriching the lives of each individual resident, allowing them to age in place, even as their needs change. They create dignified living space to provide a high quality of life. To offer such enriched services and care (including palliative through to end of life support), we need sufficient space to operate. Generally, the floor to floor in Amica buildings is similar to residential buildings with building systems like HVAC in addition which adds to the building height. This means that Assisted Living, Long-term care, and Long-term care with memory care all have their own dedicated dining rooms and lounges, as well as their own activities and sets of supporting team members. This requires space. Plus, residents invite their families and friends over to be a part of activities – and this requires generous amenity space. Ceiling heights are higher to allow for healthy congregate space and airflow. Common amenities, where residents gather, are located throughout the building on levels 1-4 to foster socializing and promote good mental wellbeing.  In addition, ceiling height is needed to facilitate the delivery of complex care (e.g. height allowance for mechanical lifts, etc.).

  • Share All trees onsite (about 40 trees with a minimum of 50 years old each) will be cut. Additionally, most of the trees in our backyards will also be cut. Is this how the City of Vancouver taking new green initiatives? Can the city reevaluate the developer's arborist recommendations and at least save the ones at the corners and those in our backyards? on Facebook Share All trees onsite (about 40 trees with a minimum of 50 years old each) will be cut. Additionally, most of the trees in our backyards will also be cut. Is this how the City of Vancouver taking new green initiatives? Can the city reevaluate the developer's arborist recommendations and at least save the ones at the corners and those in our backyards? on Twitter Share All trees onsite (about 40 trees with a minimum of 50 years old each) will be cut. Additionally, most of the trees in our backyards will also be cut. Is this how the City of Vancouver taking new green initiatives? Can the city reevaluate the developer's arborist recommendations and at least save the ones at the corners and those in our backyards? on Linkedin Email All trees onsite (about 40 trees with a minimum of 50 years old each) will be cut. Additionally, most of the trees in our backyards will also be cut. Is this how the City of Vancouver taking new green initiatives? Can the city reevaluate the developer's arborist recommendations and at least save the ones at the corners and those in our backyards? link

    All trees onsite (about 40 trees with a minimum of 50 years old each) will be cut. Additionally, most of the trees in our backyards will also be cut. Is this how the City of Vancouver taking new green initiatives? Can the city reevaluate the developer's arborist recommendations and at least save the ones at the corners and those in our backyards?

    40th Ave Neighbor asked about 1 year ago

    Thanks for the questions. The City has an Urban Forest Strategy that seeks to retain as many trees as possible through redevelopment. The tree retention strategy included in the application is being reviewed by staff, along with all other aspects of the proposal.

  • Share I would like to know the particulars of the seniors facility. What type and level/s of care options will there be? Is it public or private and who will be running it? on Facebook Share I would like to know the particulars of the seniors facility. What type and level/s of care options will there be? Is it public or private and who will be running it? on Twitter Share I would like to know the particulars of the seniors facility. What type and level/s of care options will there be? Is it public or private and who will be running it? on Linkedin Email I would like to know the particulars of the seniors facility. What type and level/s of care options will there be? Is it public or private and who will be running it? link

    I would like to know the particulars of the seniors facility. What type and level/s of care options will there be? Is it public or private and who will be running it?

    SH asked about 1 year ago

    Thanks for the question. The applicant has proposed a community care facility use intended by the applicant to serve seniors. The application includes assisted living and long term care. The applicant is a private-pay provider.

  • Share (1) Is it the City Bylaw requirement that this senior home must have such high ceiling of 94 feet for a 6-storey building? (2) Can the half-moon entrance be flipped over from the alley to the front, i.e on 41st Ave. This is similar to the layout of Revera Crofton Manor (senior home) on 2803 W 41st Ave? Again, is it the City Bylaw that it must be in the alley? on Facebook Share (1) Is it the City Bylaw requirement that this senior home must have such high ceiling of 94 feet for a 6-storey building? (2) Can the half-moon entrance be flipped over from the alley to the front, i.e on 41st Ave. This is similar to the layout of Revera Crofton Manor (senior home) on 2803 W 41st Ave? Again, is it the City Bylaw that it must be in the alley? on Twitter Share (1) Is it the City Bylaw requirement that this senior home must have such high ceiling of 94 feet for a 6-storey building? (2) Can the half-moon entrance be flipped over from the alley to the front, i.e on 41st Ave. This is similar to the layout of Revera Crofton Manor (senior home) on 2803 W 41st Ave? Again, is it the City Bylaw that it must be in the alley? on Linkedin Email (1) Is it the City Bylaw requirement that this senior home must have such high ceiling of 94 feet for a 6-storey building? (2) Can the half-moon entrance be flipped over from the alley to the front, i.e on 41st Ave. This is similar to the layout of Revera Crofton Manor (senior home) on 2803 W 41st Ave? Again, is it the City Bylaw that it must be in the alley? link

    (1) Is it the City Bylaw requirement that this senior home must have such high ceiling of 94 feet for a 6-storey building? (2) Can the half-moon entrance be flipped over from the alley to the front, i.e on 41st Ave. This is similar to the layout of Revera Crofton Manor (senior home) on 2803 W 41st Ave? Again, is it the City Bylaw that it must be in the alley?

    Carrie Seto asked over 1 year ago

    Thanks for the questions. Please see the responses below:

    1.    The City does not have by-laws or requirements regulating ceiling height for community care facilities. The following response has been provided by the applicant: This is an institutional building offering assisted living and long-term care including memory care for those with cognitive decline. Many residents do not leave the building on a regular basis and as such significant amenities and programming are required to ensure a healthy quality of life. Amenity spaces, for congregation, typically need slightly higher ceiling heights than basic residential. These are located on levels 1-4 of the proposed building. Further, community care facilities typically command more robust HVAC systems than in residential, adding to the overall height. 

    2.    Response has been provided by the applicant: Location of porte cochere and ramp on the lane is driven by typical engineering standards and planning principles in Vancouver, where vehicular traffic is directed to the lane making streets more pedestrian friendly. This site requires a lane dedication and would be well serviced by it. Further, W41st is part of Vancouver’s Major Road Network, a Local Truck Route, and a Future Rapid Transit Corridor/Major Transit Network route. Placing new driveways on this frontage would detract from this and increase the potential for vehicular/pedestrian/bus conflicts with the existing Translink Frequent Transit Network Rapid Bus line and bus stop. Lastly, locating the porte cochere on the lane aligns with the massing strategy to terrace away from the north adjacent lots.

    3.    Where there is opportunity to secure a rear lane the City will seek this through a rezoning. Vehicular access is generally provided from a lane where the opportunity exists.

    - Nick

  • Share Based on the pictures of its front (41st Ave), it is extraordinarily tall and ugly building. The main entrance has about eight stairs and all it can be seen is a concrete wall. What is the height (ie feet or meters) of the building from the sidewalk at the east corner of 41st? on Facebook Share Based on the pictures of its front (41st Ave), it is extraordinarily tall and ugly building. The main entrance has about eight stairs and all it can be seen is a concrete wall. What is the height (ie feet or meters) of the building from the sidewalk at the east corner of 41st? on Twitter Share Based on the pictures of its front (41st Ave), it is extraordinarily tall and ugly building. The main entrance has about eight stairs and all it can be seen is a concrete wall. What is the height (ie feet or meters) of the building from the sidewalk at the east corner of 41st? on Linkedin Email Based on the pictures of its front (41st Ave), it is extraordinarily tall and ugly building. The main entrance has about eight stairs and all it can be seen is a concrete wall. What is the height (ie feet or meters) of the building from the sidewalk at the east corner of 41st? link

    Based on the pictures of its front (41st Ave), it is extraordinarily tall and ugly building. The main entrance has about eight stairs and all it can be seen is a concrete wall. What is the height (ie feet or meters) of the building from the sidewalk at the east corner of 41st?

    Concerned Neighbor asked over 1 year ago

    Thanks for the question. The proposed measurement height is 28.1 m (92 ft.). - Nick